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Watch Wavves' Nathan Williams Open up About His Past on ESPN

The indie frontman joined 'Highly Questionable' and opened up about his past life of shoplifting and drugs, and his new life with Snacks the epileptic cat.
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Wavves' Nathan Williams joined a list that includes Gucci Mane and Migos yesterday, as he gave a candid interview to Dan Le Batard on ESPN's Highly Questionable. Le Batard and stand-in co-host Mina Kimes prompted Williams on his history with drugs and shoplifting, and Williams didn't pause before opening up.

"Yeah, I used to steal a lot," he said. "I used to wear baggy jeans. I used to go to Nordstrom and I'd put, like, five pairs of pants on under my jeans and steal them. I had a dealer who liked nice jeans, so he would trade[…] My mom found tags at my house, and she took the tags back to Nordstrom, and she said, 'You can prosecute my son if you like, he's a thief.'"

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Le Batard turned the conversation to Williams's heroin use—which he discussed in depth for the first time on VICELAND's The Therapist. "I was young when I was involved with it," Williams said. "We had a dealer from Long Beach, and he would come down, and basically whatever he had, people in San Diego would start doing. So, started off with mushrooms, and the next time he came down he had meth that time, and then there was coke. The last time that he came down, there was a bunch of black tar. So people just sort of started doing it. I don't know if you know this, but it's super addictive. So, that just became the thing for a couple of years, until people started dying from it."

He described that period of his life as "terrible[…] rock bottom for me" and explained why he'd kept much of the story buried until recently: "I didn't want people to get the wrong idea and think I'm glamorizing drug use and this type of thing, because it's disgusting."

"You have a lot of people talking about popping xans and drinking lean, and all these things that are so addictive and terrible for you," he said. "It's just a road that's better left not traveled,"

Le Batard's father turned the conversation to Williams's cat, Snacks, who is epileptic and extremely chill.

Watch the interview in full below.

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