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We Spoke To Mike Skinner About Trap, His New Record And Skrillex Earning Millions

He Doesn't Like Witch House
Ryan Bassil
London, GB

With The Streets, Mike Skinner successfully soundtracked the dreary taxi rides home from nights out, the days spent sat at home getting stoned, and generally made the mundanities of modern life sound REALLY good. Five albums in, he put The Streets to rest and disappeared off the radar for a while. BUT. He’s back, along with Rob Harvey from The Music and their new project The D.O.T.

We premiered their video for You Never Asked - featuring man of the moment Danny Brown - and we caught up with Mike the other day to have a little chinwag.

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Last year you hung up The Streets moniker, why did you decide to start making music again?

I never didn’t want to do music and I certainly wanted to make a big change, but it’s only really become clear now what it is that I wanted. I wanted to not do The Streets and to be more of a producer really. So, literally as soon as The Streets deal ended, I was doing the soundtrack to The Inbetweeners which took up 6 months. It was really fun and kind of what I’d always dreamed of doing when I was a kid and The D.O.T is really an extension of that.

Yeah, it’s a little bit different from The Streets sound…

There’s people that really like The Streets and it wouldn’t be right to go far off that. If I did a Streets album without any of my vocals on it people would be like “what the hells that?” - but that’s what I want to do. I want to do an album without my vocals on it and concentrate on the production.

It’s quite a departure from the sound of The Streets, was that intentional?

Well, Rob’s not got the sort of voice that people are used to hearing. My sort of production is obviously influenced a lot by rap and grime. No one has really put a voice like Robs on those tracks, but it works for me. It’s exciting, there’s people that really love it and really hate it, which believe it or not is what happened with The Streets.

Oh really? I love Original Pirate Material.

People really hated it at first. A lot less people now say that Original Pirate Material was a load of shit. It makes sense because it’s been 10 years, people have got used to it. I don’t know wether anyone is going to like The D.O.T, but what I do know is that it hasn’t really been done before and that’s really what I always wanted to be doing.

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I follow your Twitter account and it went quiet for a while, which was sad…

Yeah, and it’ll be quiet again, y’know. You’ve got to be honest, you’ve got to be straight with people. It’s not really normal having 200,000 people following your words. It’s not how humans evolved. So, it’s weird. I’ve never wanted to get on peoples nerves.

I see you talking about Whisky Sours and all of that, what’s that about?

It’s a really old drink and I’m really into Raymond Chandler books and that kind of set me up. I was in a bar with a hangover and some guy from my label offered me a whisky sours. I thought it sounded pretty horrible, but ever since I’ve been like that drink is chong. It tastes like sweets, but it’s sophisticated, it’s not like drinking hooch or bacardi breezers or something.

How did the link up with Danny Brown come about?

He’s really into UK stuff and he was into what I was doing. I went to see him at XOYO a couple of months ago and we had a party. He’s really safe. He went off to Paris the next day with a really sore head and I started to email him. I sent him a track and he sent me a vocal back.

So, you did it over email?

Yeah, and then we decided we needed to make a video. He was like, I’m gonna be in Prague in a week and then I’m not coming back to Europe for a while. We were like, “wow, okay” and flew to Prague. I hate it when you get those videos where there’s a guy rapping on it, but he wasn’t there so you see him on a TV screen or something. It was really important to us that it didn’t feel like one of those.

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Would you say the track is representative of the album as a whole?

No, this record, and that, is mainly stuff that’s already been on soundcloud. This first album is kind of like a soundcloud greatest hits. Then, there’s going to be another album which is all new stuff and that’s coming February next year.

What’d you think about Soundcloud and the way the industry is going?

I spend a lot of my life on soundcloud. It’s really interesting. I speak to Diplo sometimes and Mad Decent and they’re basically like an events company. They don’t sell their music, it just goes out there. In the old days a label would release something every month but Mad Decent do something almost every day. They do the Block Party things and all the events, and Diplo is out there making gazillions DJing. I think the dance people know what they’re doing and all they’re trying to do is get DJing work. The economics of the music is irrelevant, it’s like, get the music out there, get people listening to it, and get people coming to see you.

Yeah, I saw Skrillex is earning millions from DJing…

Yeah, he’s made like 15 million or something. The whole EDM thing is kind of the model. But for us, we’re sort of half a traditional band and half a dance thing. Rob plays the guitar and I play the keyboards, but it’s very electronic as well.

Deadmau5 was saying he just puts his laptop in and presses play, but you’re playing stuff too?

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Yeah. That whole EDM thing, when it’s in the correct environment, like the Electric Daisy festival in America or whatever, it works. But it’s when you get, say, a DJ on a stage at Glastonbury it can be a bit confusing for the traditional rock’n’roll punters.

Yeah, it’s a bit weird. So, what are your shows going to be like?

The gigs on this tour are going to be tiny. We probably won’t even fill them, but y’know, it feels like the old days. The people that do like The D.O.T - and you can probably count them on two hands - they really do like it. The lesson for the modern world really is to ignore the mass media and give the audience what they want.

What’ve you been listening to lately?

I’ve been listening to trap. Trap is weird, it started about 3 months ago and already it’s starting to feel quite saturated. Before that I was mad moombahton and I’ve kind of got these ideas about really slow house. It’s kind of like a chopped and screwed nu-disco which is the sour house thing that I keep banging on about. Every few months there’s some new idea or something. I didn’t get into that witch house or anything.

Yeah, there wasn’t really a big record…

Yeah, and there’s a lot of that half time drum and bass shit about. There’s that Under Yuh Skirt by Mavado, which I think is a Zeds Dead tune, weirdly. That’s the prototype for me really, taking what dubstep did and applying it to drum and bass. Disclosure are also fantastic.

Cool, thanks Mike!

The D.O.T’s debut record will be released October 22