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Scary Movies, Porcelain Clowns And Illustrated Animals: A Conversation About Fear with Wooshie, Silent Jay And Chino

Melbourne's Wooshie, Silent Jay, and Chino open up about their greatest fears.

What are you scared of? Slow internet connections? Crocodiles? Audience interaction? Something worse? It's a week or so out from Halloween and thoughts move from the everyday to the eerie and supernatural. Wooshie and Silent Jay know all about it. Individually they're supernaturally talented producers, and together they work as N.B.L., making music so good it's scary. It makes sense they're playing a Halloween party at Goodgod in Sydney. Joining them for the fright night of spooky club sounds will be The Finer Things DJs, Jace XL and Guerre. To get in the zone ahead of the show they sat down with Silent Jay's cousin and fellow producer Chino to share some deep dark secrets and traumatising memories.

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WOOSHIE: Have you ever seen a scary movie?
SILENT JAY: *shakes head*
W:  You've NEVER seen a scary movie?
SJ: I think the scariest movie I've seen is… like, I think the M. Night Shyamalan movies, I think they were like the scariest I've seen. But I think growing up as a Philo (Filipino), it's a pretty superstitious culture, you hear enough scary stories already, you know what i mean? At least for me I hated that shit, man.
W:  What about like 80's B grade horror films, exploitation and shit, do you find those movies scary?
SJ: Probably not anymore, but at the time, growing up? Yeah I would have. I used to get scared of Resident Evil, man.

W

: It was a really scary game.

CHINO

: I get the superstition thing, my parents pumped fear into me

SJ

: Yeah

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W

: Even for the short period I was in the Phillippines, I heard quite a lot of ghost stories and stories about witches.

SJ

: Exactly and then you become hyper aware of it, paranoid, thinking that you hear or see shit. So I always avoided it, I didn't want to see it in a movie because I knew it would make it even more vivid.

C

: Yeah and they make you visualise it so well, they're such graphic stories.

W

: What is it about the red circles in those YouTube, ghost, conspiracy videos that scares you?

SJ

: I think it was just hanging out with my cousins, sleepovers, them trying to scare me and show me videos - just the association, as soon as you see that red circle you know you're going to see some shit that's not supposed to be there.

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W

: I think what scares me the most is that there's usually nothing inside the red circle. besides some lens flair.

C

: You know what scared the fuck out of me? Jumanji.

SJ

: Yeah, Jumanji scared me, too.

W

: Why?

C

: It was so realistic at the time! Seeing monkeys pop out of drawers and shit, dressed up as cops.

SJ

: Do you remember this book

The Eleventh Hour

? Kind of had the same vibe as Jumanji.

C: Oh Graham Base! What a fucking legend. That's weird, I was just recently searching for his stuff.
SJ: I think growing up as well my cousins knew I hated all scary shit so they'd try and fuck with me, I remember when I was really young, they pretty much held me down and forced me to watch one of those Freddie Kruger movies and that messed me up. I was real young, and yeah, ever since I didn't want to watch scary films.
W: I remember the scariest shit I saw when I was super young was, I woke up in the night and walked into the lounge room where my Mum and her friend were watching TV, they told me not to look over at the TV screen and so of course, I did. They used to show like dead soldiers and shit on the news. Well they kind of did when the Iraq War first started but then they stopped, but when the Gulf War was happening, and they were showing a dead helicopter pilot's body on the news and I remember that just sticking with me, knowing it was real. I remember trying to go to sleep and I could feel this dead helicopter pilot from the Gulf War coming through the walls.
C: I remember my Mum bought this fucking porcelain clown and I could've sworn that shit was cursed, that was some real life shit that I was paranoid about.
SJ: Why did she get it in the first place, though? Did you ask her?
C: I don't know, she must've been given it from like a friend from work or something, but it was so crappy, it didn't even stand up properly, you know. It'd just fall over, she'd put it away, put it in the shelf somewhere, but I'd still know it was there! I was just like "fucking throw it in the bin!" That shit messed me up, I never went out of my way to watch a scary movie, but yeah as I got older I realised most of them were just like, fun trash.
W: What scares you the most about real life shit now?
C: Spiders? I don't know. I don't mind spiders, I guess I like them but just the movement of a spider is scary.
SJ: Probably ignorance and racism. Those people are real life zombies, it's so hard to change people's perspectives, feels like no matter what you tell people nowadays it's just become harder to change their views.
W: Yeah but I guess you can change people's attitudes over time through education, but do you feel like in Australia racism is becoming even more deeply ingrained and complex?
SJ: yeah.
W: I guess it feels like racism  has always been a lot more overt in Australia than other countries but now it feels like it's becoming more complex and instilled, too. It always has been but I guess as the country gets older that acknowledgment of the ills of the past becomes harder to penetrate or something.
C: When you encounter that ignorance first hand it's pretty fucking scary. What are you scared of Dylan?
W: What am I scared of? Um, getting Old?
C. Haha! Oh, that is scary, that is truly scary.
W: I don't know, I'm definitely not scared of getting old, but I do feel like maybe some of my friends are! They're feeling the pressure, though. I don't know.  I feel like as I get older I get more and more, like younger almost. "The more you know the less you know" kind of thing. I feel like as I was younger I was very idealistic and naive, and yeah as I get older,  I feel like I can't relate to most people regardless of how old they are. I guess you start to see things more for how they or something? That's kind of scary.
C:  I think, video games…. you know those pop out and scare you tactics, shock tactics. Those games scared me, like Half Life and shit.
SJ: Oh man but you used to love it!
C: I Know, I know!
SJ: Oh man, what about that game…
C: "The Last of Us"?
SJ: Yeah! that was like, Game of the year last year, man -  I got that shit down stairs man. I can't play it.
C: (laughs hysterically)
SJ: Like what the fuck man I can't even play that game, I could probably watch a scary movie now, but I won't play that game even though I know it's a dope game, but I still can can't play it.

Wooshie, Silent Jay, Jace XL, Guerre and The Finer Things will brave the outside world and play Goodgod on Halloween, October 31st.